Villeneuve Dune 2021 and Part Two 2024
Oct. 16th, 2026 11:16 amLynch got 137 minutes to get Paul to the Emperor's crown.
Villeneuve got 155 minutes + 166 minutes to get Paul to the Emperor's crown.
137 minutes (2.29 hours) VS 321 minutes (5.35 hours). This Villeneuve cr ..... eation better be more than just lucky.
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I recently watched both Villeneuve films back to back on TV, with commercial breaks, which never does any movie any favours. Dark tenebrous screens fade to black in a daylit room. I suspect it would have been similarly murky in theatre, but maybe it was effectively moody and beautifully broodingly bodeful.
[Continuation several days later.]
Actually, I have watched these again, and I now understand that daytime viewing is not recommended. There are some beautiful things, beautifully shown. I was struck by how the visual team used some portions of a culture without tipping over into implying that it is the culture in the future. For instance, the Harkonen world, especially of the Baron, uses the black lacquer of Japanese esthetic, while using the white facial make up, and the view of the baron's neck nape, like is shown in a Geisha's kimono, in an eerie way, while never suggesting that this is future Japanese culture.
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One thing I do think that Lynch got wrong was his characterization of the Baron. Lynch makes him into a gross fat fool, which makes Duke Leto's fall to his machinations weak and pathetic. Leto should have been able to think rings around that pus-filled drooler. I grant that Villeneuve's Baron is much more frightening and Machivellian, easily able to outmaneuver a reasonably capable Duke Leto. Stellan Skasgard for the win.
I *do* object to the Villeneuve butchering of the Chani character. She is not so petty and unsophisticated as Zandeya's Chani is written. Yes, she is a tough warrior, and yes, she is a wild being, but no, she isn't ignorant of marriages of alliance.
I also object to Villeneuve's Stilgar. Stilgar believes in the Lisan Al Gib (spelling) in spite of himself. He too is more discerning and sophisticated than Bordan's Stilgar is written. He doesn't wallow in the "godly" mysticism of it all. He is compelled to believe and it annoys him.
And I won't even talk about Villeneuve's numb bumbling around the character of Alia. No Gom Jabbar for Alia? Bah.
I do like Sharon Duncan Brewster as Villeneuve's Dr. Liet Kynes. I think that works very well. It also makes a nonsense of Villeneuve's sietch culture. Obviously *some* people are going to the equivalent of university and they aren't just dusty warriors with swords, nay scimitars. I like the/my conceit that Lynch's Max Von Sydow's Kynes could be the spouse (assuming age matching) of Sharon Duncan Brewster's Kynes. The outside the sietch version matched with the inside the sietch version - and both et by worms.
All in all, I feel that Villeneuve's version suffers from all of us knowing the story. I kept waiting for particular lines (For the father, nothing.) or events, and they didn't happen. I do think the combat training at the beginning of the novel is critical for understanding how young Paul really is, and how extremely trained he is in very focused ways. And while Villeneuve does make Jessica freaky, he doesn't make her or any of the other Bene Gesserits frightening. They should have been widdle-your-drawers frightening, and they weren't. I mean, think of Lynch's Sian Phillips's Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam - very scary.
And think of Lynch's Brad Dourif's Pitre De Vries. I mean we spend a lot of time in the head of Pitre in the novel. He deserves more care than Villeneuve's two lines from a black dot on the lower lip of the mouth in a white Italian Harlequin make up face. Shall I *talk* about Linda Hunt's Shadout Mapes compared to Villeneuve's who doesn't even get the dignity of blooding the blade before resheathing? Hah.
And the ending of Villeneuve's Dune Part Two just started hacking at characters and events, until it was just: no.
So.
It's pretty, but no depth.